Ok I went from 1.7 to 1.8 I did what you recommended regarding set up. I now have an Logbook Pro and Logbook Pro Old in my program file. In my program list if I click on the logbook pro icon it launches 1.7 and in the desktop icon it launches 1.8 is this ok?????? it seems I have both version running depending which icon I click. Regarding synch with APDL what should I do???